This month’s APR ISSUE #124 cover is with the Rip and Dip Queen herself, Chef Ayesha Nurdjaja, who is the Chef/Partner of Shuka and Shukette! She’s known for her bold Mediterranean flavors and has showcased her passion for cooking on a number of shows including joining S4 of Bobby’s Triple Threat on Food Network! We had the pleasure of seeing her at last year’s NYC Wine Food Festival and her love for what she does is evident when meeting her!

We sat down with her to find out how she got into culinary, her restaurants, looking ahead to S5 of Bobby’s Triple Threat, which will be back in September, her first cookbook which drops this Fall and more!

ATHLEISURE MAG: What was the first dish that you ate that made you fall in love with food?

CHEF AYESHA NURDJAJA: My father was a chef, and my mother is an instinctive cook with a talent for making everything absolutely delicious. I always felt like I grew up on the original set of Chopped, getting to eat the best food from two people trying to outdo each other.

If I had to pick just one dish it would be the one that inspired me to cook, Lidia Bastianich’s risotto-stuffed tomatoes. Thanks to my parents, I had always been a great eater, but it wasn’t until then that I realized that I loved to cook.

I watched her on TV and taped the episode. Making this dish gave me a whole new connection with food. It awakened my soul because I made it with my own hands.

AM: When did you realize that you wanted to be a chef?

CHEF AN: I remember when I staged at Felidia. I was stuck between the dish pit and the pastry station, watching this unspoken symphony of cooks, chefs and dishwashers working to put out this gorgeous food. It was like watching ballet. There was this choreography that everyone executed seamlessly, responding to cues that I didn’t understand yet. It was so beautiful. I soaked it all in the way people do when they go to the opera. It really was an emotional experience for me. And that was the moment that I knew I wanted to be a chef.

AM: Tell us about your culinary background, where you went to school and kitchens you trained in.

CHEF AN: I trained at ICE and got my degree, but it wasn’t until I started my first job at Felidia that my real education began. Felidia was my dream restaurant. I finessed my way into a position there and started out sweeping the floors and washing dishes. I steadily worked my way through every job in the kitchen, eventually ending as a sous chef. I learned about real restaurant life, and boy, was it a crash course. Long days filled with learning, failures, and celebrations of growth. There were cuts, burns, tears of happiness, and many times I thought to myself “what am I doing here?”

I went on to work in some of the best restaurants in New York, including Picholine with Terrance Brennan and Missy Robbins’ A Voce. These were my “Yes, chef!” years, where the hours were long and the environments competitive. You had to prove yourself every day. I learned how to butcher, how to make pasta, how to run every station with efficiency and purpose, how to create new dishes and how a restaurant is run. I saw great leadership and where I wanted to do things differently. I took in everything, and the experience prepared me to be the chef I am today.

AM: How would you define your style of cooking?

CHEF AN: My cooking is rooted in Middle Eastern and Mediterranean cuisine, featuring bold, bright flavors built on solid technique, using seasonality as my North Star. The dishes look effortless, but behind them is the precision and discipline. I developed working in fine dining kitchens, and they are full of craveable soul.

My cooking is about the table. I believe food is meant to be shared, torn, scooped, passed around, and celebrated together. That philosophy shapes how I cook and how I design menus, which developed into my “Rip and Dip” mantra.

AM: You have received a number of accolades including James Beard Award Semifinalist in 2022 and 2023 and for 2026, you are a Finalist for Best Chef NY State. What has this meant to you and how excited are you for this distinction?

CHEF AN: I am so humbled. I grew up thinking I would be a lawyer, because that’s what my parents wanted for me, then threw away conventions to follow my heart. Getting these accolades from my peers is the greatest recognition possible. The years of hard work, dedication and sacrifice were about learning, honing my craft and my constant desire to be the best that I could be.

The Best Chef: New York State category is so special. The New York City restaurant scene is so competitive - I mean there’s an average of three or so restaurants on every block. So to think that the James Beard Foundation recognizes my restaurant as one of the best, not just in the city, but in the entire state, makes me speechless (which is no small thing for me!). It is such a great honor, and I hope it will be an inspiration for others that when you put your all into something, even your biggest dreams are within reach.

AM: You have been a chef at a number of restaurants. What has it meant to you that for the past decade or so, you have been the Executive Chef and partner of Shuka and Shukette at The Bowery Group. What has that meant to you to be there for a significant period of time and to grow your concepts?

CHEF AN: Discovering your own cooking style is a key milestone for any chef. I joined The Bowery Group as the chef at Hundred Acres, an American farm-to-table bistro. But the food that inspired me was Middle Eastern/Mediterranean. Then, I inherited the Shuka, and it’s the restaurant where I really got the opportunity to create my signature culinary style. I started to sneak in spices like turmeric and would layer in other middle eastern flavors. Once given the chance to start from scratch and open Shukette, I wanted to create a restaurant that I would personally be a regular in. It was kind of like wearing a dress without spanx – I was still cooking, but felt free with two feet on the ground.

AM: Tell us about Shuka as you created this restaurant. Why did you want to open it, what is the cuisine served here, and what is the ambiance like?

CHEF AN: My Italian grandmother was an adventurous woman for her time. She migrated here from Italy and lived in Cobble Hill. For her, cooking was a part of her role as the family matriarch. She would shop for ingredients and take me along. We shopped on Atlantic Avenue, and it was like getting our passport stamped. We would try shawarma, medjoul date cookies, za’atar flatbreads, hummus, and more. She ignited this curiosity within me about all the different kinds of flavors out there.

Even though I was obsessed with Italian cuisine and the power of “flour + water = pasta,” on my days off, I would still find myself at Mediterranean and Middle Eastern restaurants to get my rip and dip fix.

The generosity of spirit that is inherent in the cuisine was deeply resonant with me, and eventually, I convinced my partners to let me throw a Middle Eastern feast for New Year’s Eve. It was a hit, and Shuka was born.

I love a party so the vibe of my restaurants are always high energy. And you can’t have a party without great music, so there is always a fun playlist. The food comes fast and it’s a little loud. You move a little closer to talk. You share what you’re eating. It feels like you walked into a surprise party with your favorite people and you never want to leave.

AM: What are 3 main dishes that are a must-try when we come in for our next meal there?

CHEF AN: I love working with peak-season produce, so the menus at both restaurants are always changing. But there are certain things that would make our guests riot if we ever take them off the menu. It’s impossible to pick just three. When you come to Shuka, you have to start with the Labne which we make every day. It’s thick and creamy (not your typical labne), and is always adorned with seasonal toppings. One of my favorites is strawberries with harissa, lime and basil.

You also have to have the Whipped Feta + Pistachio Dip. It’s the first dish I ever created for the Shuka menu, and is studded with pistachios, herbs and garlic.

Lastly, the Fried Halloumi. It’s like meteorite craters of crispy fried halloumi drizzled in our spiced yogurt sauce and showered with tons of za’atar. Are you sure you only want me to pick three?!

AM: What are 3 cocktails that we should enjoy at Shuka?

CHEF AN: I’m a sucker for a frozen drink - a good one that is not overly sweet and where you can taste the alcohol. For me, that’s the Limonana, made with fresh squeezed lemon juice and vodka. Regardless of the weather outside, the limonana always puts a smile on my face.

The Ankara is a little exotic. It is a bourbon-based cocktail that is finished with a lemon-turmeric cordial and ginger juice. I love the flavor combinations. It is savory and perfectly balanced between warm and spicy – just like me!

I don’t drink tequila often, but if I’m in the mood for it, the Tangier hits the spot. It’s made with spicy tequila, pineapple juice and lime and kissed with a little sesame oil.

AM: 4 years later, you launched Shukette! Tell us why you launched this sister location, the cuisine that is available here, and the ambiance?

CHEF AN: I had more to say. One restaurant could not possibly contain all my creativity. With Shukette, I was able to design from scratch, so it really has my personality. After working in basements for most of my career, I knew I wanted an open kitchen that lets me be a part of the action in the dining room. I love interacting with guests and being on the line with my crew. I wanted to blur the lines between the front and the back of house. I finally got to see the positive reactions to my food - eyes rolling in the back of their head, insisting that everyone else at the table taste what they just did right now. The playlist is fire, because for me the music is just as important as the food. It creates the vibe that I crave - curated chaos, flames in the background, warm and attentive service, and a rip and dip conga line of dishes coming to your table.

AM: What are the similarities/differences of these 2 restaurants?

CHEF AN: Shuka is like my firstborn, the one who follows curfew and plays by the rules, while Shukette is her wild little sister. She turns up the music a few notches. There’s more theatrics, almost an element of entertainment.

AM: What are 3 dishes that we should order when we come to Shukette?

CHEF AN: We make four breads to order at Shukette; something that I was unable to do at Shuka. Our Frena is the queen, but the other three are neck-and-neck. The Frena is made to order in a cast iron pan, which creates a crispy bottom and pillowy top pocked with dimples that perfectly house large pieces of confit garlic. This bread is meant to be ripped and dipped into any of our dips, but it also stands on its own. A pro move is to order one for each person and share the other breads.

Our Joojeh Chicken is cooked entirely on the grill, creating a nice crispy skin packed with delicious flavors of saffron, dill and yogurt - it is possibly one of the juiciest birds out there.

And our Fish in a Cage represents the cuisine so well. I wanted to choose a local fish, so porgy it is! The whole fish is glossed with a harissa-tomato glaze, and served with grilled vegetables, charred lemon and zhoug. It is light but packed in flavor, and served in the cage that it is grilled in.

As a bonus, if you come in the Summer, don’t miss anything with tomatoes or our crispy fairy tale eggplant!

AM: What are 3 cocktails that you suggest that we should try there?

CHEF AN: We’re known for our Gazoz, a spritz-style cocktail made with natural infusions of fresh herbs, fruits and vegetables that celebrate the season and topped off with my favorite wine, champagne!

AM: After cooking for over 20 years, where do you continue to look for inspiration?

CHEF AN: Inspiration is everywhere. In my heart, I’m still a cook. I love working with ingredients and coming up with new dishes with my team. I have been working in the kitchen for over twenty springtimes, and I’m still a little giddy when the first peas hit the market.

Travel is the other thing that always inspires me. I love to discover new places and seeing how they treat familiar ingredients, or use things that are new to me. I still feel like there is so much to learn.

AM: How do you balance your time between these 2 restaurants?

CHEF AN: Balance is a difficult concept. Everyone talks about it but does anyone really ever achieve it? For me, the most important thing I do is encourage my staff to take ownership of the restaurant so that when I am “balancing” my time between both (and all my other projects) I can count on having people that are really invested and believe in upholding my vision.

AM: You have been competing on TV for Food Network since 2009! We actually met you briefly at last year’s NYCWFF as you were at Chef Jean Georges’ (another recent fabulous cover story with Chef Gregory Gourdet) with previous cover, Chef Esther Choi, and you landed on Food Network’s 2025 Hot List. How important has it been to you to add TV personality and culinary competitor to your portfolio in addition to being an Executive Chef?

CHEF AN: NYCWFF is always a great time. Being on TV has opened so many doors for me. I love being recognized by the fans. They want to take pictures and they root for me regardless of how the judging goes. It has been an amazing experience.

AM: You joined S4 of Bobby’s Triple Threat, how did you get attached to this show and what was it like competing on this show?

CHEF AN: Bobby Flay called and asked me to come on the show. I was thinking, he has to be joking. I never wanted to cook competitively, so I immediately said, “no”. Then he said, “yes” and it went on that way for a while. I couldn’t refuse him, so eventually I agreed on the condition that he train me. He got in the kitchen with me and showed me the ropes and now I’m a Titan.

AM: Will you come back for S5? What are you looking forward to for next season?

CHEF AN: Yes, I am back for Season 5, and can’t wait! Spoiler alert – we have 12 episodes this time, rather than 10!

AM: We also saw that you were part of this year’s Puerto Rico Food and Wine Festival! Why did you want to participate, what did you make, and what did you enjoy about being part of it?

CHEF AN: I love Puerto Rico, so it’s a no-brainer for me. I love being down there. The weather is perfect, the food is always great and the people are incredibly warm and welcoming. I went down to the festival last year, so when they asked me back, I jumped at the chance. Plus, coming from New York, why would I say no to the beach in April?

You know that I am the dip queen, so I brought my Carrot Hummus with garlic yogurt, sesame, harissa, chives and za’atar pita chips. It was a hit!

AM: You have a cookbook coming out! Tell us about Mediterranean All the Way! Why did you want to launch the cookbook and what has the process been like for you?

CHEF AN: Yeah, I’ve got a cookbook coming out – finally! It’s called Mediterranean All the Way, and it’s how I actually cook, not how people think chefs cook. I didn’t want to make one of those books that looks pretty, but makes your head spin halfway through a recipe. You’re cooking, not performing surgery, you know? I just want to give people that feeling like, oh, I can actually do this. The book’s out October 20 and I can’t wait. There are over 120 recipes, and none of them are pretentious. Big herbs, bold spices, food you actually want to eat and share. If it feels like I’m standing next to you in the kitchen telling you to stop overthinking it and just rip the herbs and get on with it, then I did my job.

AM: What do you want people to walk away with when purchasing the book and making recipes from it?

CHEF AN: Confidence. I want people to stop treating cooking like a test they’re going to fail. The recipes are built for real life – you can mess with them, swap things, push them a little. That’s the point. There’s a music theme in the book too, because that’s my other obsession. Cooking is the same idea. You’re layering flavors the way you layer sound. You need a bassline, you need something sharp, something bright. Once you get that, you can do whatever you want. So find your groove, trust your taste, and start having fun with it.

AM: Will you do any events around the launch of this book?

CHEF AN: Have you met me? I’m not just going to drop a book and call it a day. There’s a full tour coming, plus some other fun events to celebrate. The book is available for pre-sale now, and be sure to keep your eyes glued to @ayesha_rare on Instagram for all the juicy details - you won’t want to miss it.

AM: Are there any other projects that you want to share that we should keep our eye out for?

CHEF AN: Season 5 of Triple Threat premiers in September. For all the fans, just wait, this season is the best yet. And if you haven’t watched, now is the perfect time to catch up on previous seasons so you’re ready for what’s coming next.

AM: When you’re not working in your restaurants, doing culinary competitions etc. how do you take time for yourself?

CHEF AN: This will sound crazy, but I cook. Just not in a restaurant. I have people over, we eat, we hang out, it turns into a whole thing. I don’t know how to cook small - never learned, and not interested - so everyone leaves with containers. That’s just how it goes at my house. I’ve had the same group of girlfriends since I was a kid, so there’s no performance there. It’s easy. That’s my reset, just being around my people. And I love to go out to eat. It’s nice to be on the other side of the dining room once in a while. A good steakhouse, a cold martini, maybe a cigar, that’s a perfect night.

AM: With over 20 years of experience under your belt, what do you want your legacy to be seen as when people think about you, your passion for food, and more?

CHEF AN: More than anything, I hope to be an inspiration to the people I work with. Not just better cooks, but better positioned, more confident, actually moving forward in their careers. This industry gave me everything, so I take it seriously. You build good kitchens, you mentor people, you open doors where you can. That’s the work. If that’s what people remember, I’m good.

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