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RUM TIME WITH BIG PAPI

June 26, 2026

We have spent countless Summers watching the greats hit the baseball field and one of them was 3X World Series Champion, 10X All Star, David “Big Papi” Ortiz who was the DH for the Boston Red Sox. As a Franchise Royalty at the Sox, #34 was retired by the club in 2017 and he remains a beloved fixture in Boston sports culture where he played 14 seasons and is the 11th in the organization to have his number in Fenway Park! He continues his love for the team by mentoring players on the team and assisting with development. You can also catch him as an analyst for FOX Sports MLB as Big Papi is loved by all!

This month’s cover star continues to forge ahead, we sat with him at the Mandarin Oriental’s MO Lounge to talk about Ozama Rum, a Dominican spirit brand with 3 expressions. We talk about his career, baseball, his work as a sports broadcaster as an analyst, his love for the DR, being a family man, his legacy, being on the Masked Singer, and the impact of Ozama within the beverage industry and the DR.

DAVID ORTIZ: So how’s it going?

AM: Great! We are excited to be with you as we have loved seeing you play. When you’re doing your analyst work, it’s awesome to hear you bring us into the game, and we’ve been such a fan from the start of your career. It’s excting to talk to you about baseball, your career, and Ozama as we enjoy Dominican rum and I know our readers/community will be excited as well!

DAVID ORTIZ: Thank you!

AM: When did you first fall in love with baseball and when did you realize that you wanted to play professionally?

DO: Well, I have been playing baseball ever since I can remember at 6 or 7. I remember that my dad (Editor’s Note: Américo Enrique “Leo” Ortiz was a former semi-professional baseball player in the Dominican Republic), he was the one that always had that vision you know? He used to be a baseball player - for sure he didn’t make it to the pros. He was very close, but all he dreamed about was having a son to play baseball. He always pushed me down that path. He thought I had the talent, he thought I had the good hands and the coordination, which is important. He pushed me. I love sports. Basketball was the one thing that I always admired, you know? And it was fun. Basketball was fun – going to the court and playing with your boys, you know? You can be organized or unorganized!

AM: Yeah.

DO: Baseball is more organized for when you have to play as a group, you know? Everybody need to be -

AM: In sync

DO: Yes, in line! Basketball, you can pick people from the street, let’s play. You know? And you just go for it!

But when I turned 13 or 14, I started getting serious about baseball.

AM: Wow!

DO: Since I started developing this, it was about the progress.

AM: Being in college watching you play was when we first saw you on the scene. It was like ‘97, ‘98, and we used watch across our dorm. You could see your energy, and just to see the passion that you have. It was a thrill.

You’re a 3X World Series Champ, 10X All-Star, you were inducted into the Hall of Fame, and that’s just some of your achievements. What has it meant to you to play this game?

DO: This game was my everything! You know, it’s different. It’s what I wanted to do. It was basically my way out for me and my family and for them to be in a better shape, you know? Baseball was my everything,

it’s still my everything. Even after I retired, you know, I still deal with our organization (Editor’s Note: David continues to have a deeply integrated and multifacted relationship with the Boston Red Sox. He is an official mentor and advisor who works with rising prospects and established stars by offering guidance, sharing baseball wisdom and weighs in on clubhouse dynamics. He also has an unprecedented and long-term agreement to actively represent the club in special appearances, assists with free agent recruitment, and works in business development for Fenway Sports Management). The organization, the work that I do on TV, I mean, everything I do is basically related to it.

AM: Why did you want to become an analyst? Regardless of the teams that are playing, even if it’s not the ones we’re following specifically, we love watching you talk about the game because there’s such a passion as well as having that insight as a player that makes it so exciting.

DO: Well, you don’t know what you don’t know.

AM: Right!

DO: My team came to me while I was playing it still and they want to try me out. FOX wanted to try me out. I’m not going to lie to you, I was a little nervous! When you are outspoken and then you have to go all of a sudden go on TV and control yourself, control your emotions - at the beginning, it was a little rough. But once you get used to it, you just go through the flow.

You know, referring to the players, talking to the fans, you always have to keep in mind that there’s always people watching - people listening.

AM: Yeah

DO: They’re paying attention. English is my second language, so at the beginning, it was a little –

AM: Right.

DO: But then, I guess I was blessed working with the right team. Those guys made me feel so comfortable. It’s like a conversation between friends, you know? Now, all of a sudden, I’m 8 years into the business and I love it. I love it. I love entertaining. I love having fun. I love passing information. There’s a lot of great hands, lots of talents and I always wanted to be the one that gives these guys some guidance. I want to pass some information to the fans, you know, it’s fun.

AM: Are there 3 teams that we should have our eye out for the season or 3 players? What are you looking for or excited about this season?

DO: Well, I’m pretty sure everybody is looking at the Dodgers who have won back to back these past couple of years. It’ll be interesting to see if they can do it again!

AM: Yep.

DO: They have their platform, they have their team, they have the players, they have the owner, and they have a great manager - my boy, Dave Roberts. They’re on fire already so, we’ll see. That’s hard to do.

AM: Yeah.

DO: We faced some situations at the Red Sox the other day where our manager Alex Cora, got fired. Great manager, good dude - we play together. We’ll see how we continue moving forward.

Unfortunately, you always have to talk about the Yankees ha ha.

AM: That is our team! We love you, but that is our team.

DO: You know, the Yankees is the other team that continues to chase. I mean, the Yankees haven’t won a World Series in 17 years. But I still give credit to the Yankees because winning is not easy. People think that because of the name, you’re gonna win eventually.

AM: Right.

DO: Well, for the Yankees, they invest money. They hire good players, and they always put a quality team out there. Sometimes, towards the end of the season, you feel like you need a little more and more and more. That’s when you realize it’s about putting things together for the fans to enjoy, you know? It is what it is, but the Dodgers are the one dominating!

AM: That’s facts.

We should also try the rum expressions. We know you had a rough night last night. (Editor’s note, we began cracking into Ozama starting with Ozama Blanco, then Ozama Añejo, and finished with Gran Añejo as we talked with David.)

DO: I’ll be watching now.

AM: Okay ha!

Well, we have been enjoying this for the last few weeks.

DO: For real?

AM: Oh yeah! We love Dominican Rum, as a category since we were introduced to it back in 2011, when we would go to Santo Domingo.

DO: Yeah.

AM: That’s when we first learned about the 3 B’s (Editor’s Note: The 3 Bs are the 3 most famous historic rum brands from the Dominican Republic: Bermudez the oldest which launched in 1852, Barceló was founded in 1930, and Brugal founded in 1888 which is the largest domestic producer in the Dominican Republic). We were down for that. Then, when we were sent this, we realized it was very smooth and that it was your brand, we were even more excited!

DO: I’m glad you enjoyed.

AM: Yes, and sipping it now, it’s very tasty.

So, you’re a busy man. You are always doing lots of things. What are 3 workouts that you do just to stay in shape and to keep it all together?

DO: You know, so at the end last year, I needed a knee surgery badly. So being busy and having an injury to my knee, I basically wasn’t able to work out. I do a lot of walking. In front of my house, I have been living in DR for the past 3 years.

My old man passed last year. I moved to the Dominican 3 years ago just so that I could be around and to be with him. I was living in Miami.

AM: We’re sorry to hear that.

DO: Yeah, it was hard.

But anyway, I live in the Dominican, you know? And it was good because we had the production over there. We do a lot of activation over there. We are working on promoting the rum and other stuff. I work for so many companies.

AM: You are busy.

DO: Yeah and this guy is keeping me even busier, but I love him. I like to stay healthy. When I’m at home, in front of my house, I have a park like Central Park.

AM: Wow!

DO: So, I do a lot of walking, riding bikes, going to the gym, you know - pop some weight.

That’s what kept me in shape for real. My son, my younger one!

AM: Oh, all that running around!

DO: He’s 2 years old. He know he owns me. I am getting married next year and that little guy, you know, I have 5 kids. But this one, he knows something. He is very smart and his name is Diego. He knows that Daddy, is all about him. So when I’m at home, I’m at home.

AM: Yeah.

DO: That’s him right there!

AM: OMG!

RW: He’s the best dressed, 2 year old like!

DO: That’s him playing baseball already.

AM: That is the cutest! So yes, that is a workout!

DO: I love my family, you know? I’m a family guy.

AM: Masked Singer is one of our favorite shows!

DO: Uh oh!

AM: We knew Googly Eyes was you from, like the first note you sang before they even unmasked you. And it was like, wait that’s Big Papi that can only be him! Of course, when they unmasked you it was like – it couldn’t be anyone else but him!

How did you get connected to that show and why did you want to do it? Obviously, you’re part of the FOX family but how did it go down?

DO: Ha ha! I didn’t know what I was walking into! My agent called me and he was like, David there’s an opportunity. I’m like, really, what’s going on? Well, we already up in LA.

AM: Yeah.

DO: It was during the playoffs.

AM: Yeah.

DO: When we were in the playoffs, I had to go to LA for about a month. We stay there the whole month, but then we have to travel to different cities.

AM: Yeah.

DO: It was getting closer to the World Series. The Masked Singer people they had an issue with somebody, and they need somebody to replace that person or something like that. They only need you for like 4 hours. I’m always hustling and somebody has to pay the bills ha ha. But I had so much fun doing it.

AM: It was so good!

DO: I had no clue!

AM: Right!

DO: First of all, they said, you gotta sing a song that you know.

AM: Yeah.

DO: I’m like, what? I’m the worst singer than everybody. They were like, “don’t worry, we will get you a song that you can have fun and you don’t have to go through all the crazy lyrics or whatever. That’s why we came out with, Turn Down For What! Yo and I had so much fun, but then at the time, I had a knee problem. What they did is that they put together an outfit –

AM: Googly Eyes!

DO: I was sitting on in and I just gotta push it.

AM: Yeah, because when it came out, you just saw this really structured item come out to the stage.

DO: It was like a workout, because when I got out of that, I was sweating bullets.

AM: Everyone says that their costumes are so hot and you can tell when they unveil you guys! You always wonder if someone is going to pass out!

DO: Yeah, I was dripping!

AM: Well it was a fun performance, you could see the crowd was so excited when you came out and it definitely looked like it was a lot of fun.

DO: It was fun. It was fun. People were like, “who’s that was that Derek Jeter?” I was like, have you ever heard a Dominican person speak English? Ha Ha we’ve got a strong accent!

AM: Yeah when someone said Jeter, we were like no! The first lyric that you belted out that was you without a doubt! The panel needed to sit down because the guesses didn’t make sense!

DO: I know right?

AM: So, why did you want to launch a rum brand? Like, you said, you’re a busy man. You’re always doing lots of projects. But why did you want to launch Ozama and what led up to that?

DO: Yeah, as a kid growing up, my father was a hard working man, my mama as well. But I noticed that when it was the weekend when my dad was able to be at home, he used to bring friends. They used to drink rum. It was very traditional in my family, you know? Growing up in that beautiful environment, you know, we were poor. We didn’t have much. But with the family, it was always this happy reunion! People that don’t have anything crazy, but whatever they have they enjoy, you know?

And that is always what keeps people together.

AM: Wow!

DO: It was a happy time. I was just a kid just watching the adults having a drink, having fun. I used to have an uncle after he started to have a few drinks, he’s start throwing quarters to all of us. That was the most fun part for the kids. My uncle got a little tipsy he was, like, hey, come here. Guys come here. We were just fighting for it you know?

AM: You gotta add it to that piggy bank!

DO: You know it ha ha.

You will never believe it until you see it - how you can do so much and not have so much.

AM: Yeah.

DO: Besides that memory. When I grew up, Ozama on the other hand, my dad used to talk about this story about him going across the river swimming. My dad was a good swimmer. You swing across the river, but then you gotta swim back. He swims, they used to go on the other side, and they started cooking around the river, and then later on, they gotta swim back.

AM: Oh!

DO: On the other side, they started talking about the story about this shark that used to go across the river. I was like, oh hell, no, I’m not swimming back. I had to wait for the boat to bring me back.

He took me back. It was so funny. I used to go to the Ozama River with my boys and we used to go fishing crab right here. The river was very healthy, beautiful, clear water. We had so much fun down there. I don’t know how to swim, so I was the one that used to do the packaging! Because they used to fish it, bring it, and then I would do the packaging. We used to be like 10 kids. We used to have a spear to hunt it. They used to go into the water. They used to take those spears, hunt it, Bring it back up, pass it to me, and I used to put them in the bag.

Once we had hundreds of them, then we used to go home. But it was, the most athletic, friendly, and fun. It could be a little bit dangerous. I never used to chase. Since I was a kid, I was very mature about not chasing dangers. Like, one time they wanted me to attach this rope with 2 gallon containers and put them across my chest for me to go across the river.

I was going to do it or whatever, but then I was like mom and dad ain’t around? I’m not gonna mess that up, just in case something goes down.

AM: Right!

DO: Then all of a sudden, something is missing. I’ll just do the packaging and you can bring it. They’d say, “you’re a chicken – a chicken,” and I’d say, “yes, I am!”

AM: Love this story and that answers why the crab is on the bottle!

DO: I’m telling you that I was 10 or 11 years old! Those are the memories that I have from the Great River now, unfortunately, it seems like as the population has grown up, things start you know to go down in a different direction. Once we start coming out with this product, I want to call attention to cleaning that river.

AM: Like a conservation effort!

DO: Yes, out of the profits we will donate a percentage. We are, you know, taking that percentage to be able to clean up the river. Once people know that my name is attached to this and the purpose, beside the business side - a lot of companies that are international and are outside of Dominican - they are into helping us out with some of the rivers.

AM: Yeah.

DO: We are all behind this. Besides that, we created so many jobs for single moms with kids back home at the factory. They do the packaging for Ozama. Ozama Is in charge of creating the jobs. I think that all of the forces behind Ozama are pointed in the right direction. That’s the way I look at it.

AM: Wow.

DO: It took us 1.5 - 2 years to come out with a with a blender who took their time before we came up with this amazing, great tasting rum in 3 different categories. Our Blanco is so smooth that when you mix it out, especially you ladies who have a different taste than as us as a man, we put that white rum together. When you mix it with juice or any type of thing, you will get away with it because it tastes very smooth. Then you go to the Gran Añejo and the Añejo, it’s a little older aging wise. It’s my favorite.

AM: Ours as well!

DO: Oh for real?

AM: Absolutely!

DO: You know what though? There’s no difference for me when it comes down to drinking whatever I have available. You know it’s just I think the time and the effort that you put behind this rum which is worth it! The feedback from people has been amazing! Let me tell you, you’re making a run in a country that is known for Dominican rum.

AM: Agreed! We raised our eyebrow before we had it because I’ve been drinking Brugal for awhile and I was a very big fan of it. Then, I had Ozama and it reminded us when we would go to Santa Domingo and sit on our balcony sipping, and it takes us back every single time we drink it.

DO: So, yeah, when you talk about those brands have been out there already for a long time day, throughout the year, they have to come out with high quality rum so they can stay established in the market. They make rum for individuals – minorities, middle-class people, high-end people, etc It all depends on how deep your focus is.

We think with Ozama, We make premium rum affordable. It’s a good price with a good quality.

AM: Yeah!

DO: Because, we are a startup. The company is just beginning and you want to be able to have everybody in the market, to be able to to afford it. So that’s what we have at this point and like, I say, the feedback have been amazing. That’s what I care about when I get behind a product. I have a quality product so, we can maintain ourselves out there.

The one thing that I wanna really emphasize with my partner? Was, let’s make a quality rum that I can compete with everybody out there.

AM: Yeah, we think it does and the packaging is beautiful. It can sit on that bar cart next to very expensive bottles, and it says I’m here.

DO: That’s right, we got this design from Italy. They make our bottles. He has been doing an amazing job of putting it together at the beginning. As you can see, the beautiful design of this bottle - it took us a bit to put it together. Last year, selling wise. I think we did a phenomenal job based on people waiting for it – right Ricky?

RW: Yes.

DO: So, it was like 7,000 – 10,000 cases last year to begin with. This year, we’re on our way to do even better. We’re chasing it up. We’re chasing it. We got the heart, we got the dedication, and I’m so excited to get behind this product. It basically connects with my family, my tradition, you know? So many stories are behind this. The most important thing is to connect with the people.

RW: As David was saying, when people try this, they don’t say no. It’s very delicious and then, when people hear that, it’s $24.99 on the shelf –

AM: Which is an amazing price point because the bottle visually makes you feel like it’s a $60 or $80 bottle.

RW: To be able to get a quality product in a quality rum like this, for $25, you go to Total Wine, this is $24.99 on the shelf. This one at 6 years aged, Ozama Gran Añejo is $45.

We also just won the Gold Medal design for our rum bottle design!

AM: That’s fantastic! The bottle really gives you that river vibe.

So, consumer side for this summer, where will Ozama pop out?

RW: Today, we are live in all of the Northeast – NY and in all of New England. We are in New Orleans, Pennsylvania, Florida, and the DR. It’s available online and 43 states as some we can’t ship to. It’s available everywhere. We have a team in place in all of the key markets whose sole focus is driving trial and activating out in the market. The majority of my team works Tuesday – Saturday.

AM: As you do!

RW: Aside from us in the industry, not as much booze is sold on Monday. They’re out there in Boston, New York, New Jersey, and Florida. They’re putting this out there, sampling it. We have been at some of the festivals here.

AM: David, what do you want your legacy to be known as whether it’s in the sport, as a business man, or as a family man?

DO: The way I live my life is based on a journey. Baseball was a journey and I am thankful to God for everything as he opened many doors for me. I want to be remembered as the greatest dad, the greatest father of all time, because I am crazy about my kids. I’m great to all of my family. Yesterday, I was with my younger daughter. She lives here. She’s a musician. She graduated from Berklee College of Music a couple of years ago, living here, trying to figure it out.

AM: Is she a singer, does she play an instrument?

DO: She can sing, she plays instruments, and she’s a producer!

AM: Oh, wow!

DO: I mean, when you go to Berklee they make sure that you change the whole packaging! And once you do that, as you move - if you go, you kind of figure out what you’re going to be really good at. Sometimes you got to be good at everything. Sometimes you get to be good at producing. Sometimes you get to be good. So, she’s down that path right now.

I came in and I told her I’d be with her for the next 3 days. We’re gonna go to places, I want you to meet people. You know how you girls are, especially when you have had a connection with your mom and with your dad? My kids, the way I look at them is like they’re still babies to me.

AM: Yeah.

DO: She’s been having so much fun the past 3 days having me around. Those are the sort of things that I really want in life, you know? Just to continue with the legacy of my father and my mom. They raised me right. They taught me how to get things done the right way. That’s what I try to teach the kids you know?

Then there is the rum and the cigars. Especially the cigars. My dad was very involved into that. My dad had his own factory. We do a lot of events and people come by as you know how rum and cigars go hand in hand!

5 years ago, he came out with Americo Cigars, really good cigars. So? When we are basically going place by place, we try to use the mark also for the cigar brand. It has been incredible for people and the combination of Rum and a good cigar is almost perfect, you know? It’s like they are cousins or something! I’m a visionary and this startup company is something I care about and I am a hard working man, that’s all that I know!

I’ve been working since I was 8 years old. I have an uncle who had an auto place. And all of us, my whole family - they used to get us as a kid and bring us to the auto part place whenever we have free time, to work with our uncle. That was kind of a mandatory in the family. And when you’re a kid, you don’t know. But now that I’m a grown man, I see the purpose of it.in my family, nobody’s doing time. Everybody works hard, we have this beautiful family and I’m talking about the guys of my generation. They know how to work, how to go through process, and when we sit down now that we are adults and talk about it, we understand it, so we want to do exactly the same thing with our kids.

Especially nowadays, it is so hard to raise a child with all of this crazy stuff happening, but I think that what you learn at home, it’s the meaning of the direction that you want to take growing up.

I have 5 kids. The older are professional. They play baseball at the professional level. My older, who is married, Jessica, she graduated at Regis College in Boston, in Psychology and Administration and she lives in the Dominican with her husband. I talked to you guys about Alice already. Then there is David, and. D’Angelo. David plays for the Texas Rangers. D’Angelo plays for the Red Sox.

AM: Wow!

DO: Diego is my other guy to chase now ha ha. You know what I’m saying?

AM: It’s been so phenomenal to meet you because we’ve loved your career and watching you play. We love how you just present yourself as a person, your passion, and we have tried for years to have you as an interview, but your schedule is definitely busy!

DO: If I knew this interview was going to be this smooth and good, I would have done it a long time ago!

AM: It’s awesome because we’re Yankees fans but have always have enjoyed seeing you play!

DO: A great story is all my employees are Yankees fan! I gotta deal with it.

AM: We wanted to be respectful ha!

DO: No it’s ok! Listen, I gotta tell you something. Yankee fans. They have been always very respectful with me because they know that as an athlete, I went about my business. I don’t care if you play for the Yankees, the Mets, Chicago, I was just trying to do my job. The Yankees fans respect that because the Yankees fans are the only fans that always come to me, and they be like, Papi, I’m a Yankees fan. I know you respect this because they know it was nothing but business. Nothing personal, you know, but I was going to whip your ass, nothing but business.

RW: Yeah, pretty good business!

DO: It’s what Yankees fans love seeing from a player. Because remember, the Yankees since I can remember they were the first ones doing what the Dodgers do nowadays. They always go for the best players because the boss, Steinbrenner always wanted to put a pin in the field. When the Yankees fans see that a guy is good and he plays for another team, all of a sudden you have the guy on your team performing. They respect that!

I love this city right here. This city gave me a lot of memories. I love competing against the Yankees and I will say this, when you are competing against the Yankees and you beat the Yankees - you get recognition as a player because you competing against the best! But at the end of the day, go Sox!

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In speaking with David about life, baseball, and Ozama, you also heard from Ricky Wolfe who is the VP of Sales at Ozama. Ricky comes with a strong background in the spirits industry. We also chatted with Edwin Castillo who is Ozama’s Rommelier. Together, they provide more insight on rum that is made in the Dominican, how Ozama came to be, the expressions, a bit of industry news, how they connected with David, and of course, talking about how the DR is also a prominent position within this partnership and venture.

RICKY WOLFE: If you guys want to taste the 3 expressions we have them here.

ATHLEISURE MAG: Let’s make it a proper meeting!

RW: Well there is no one better to taste it with than Edwin! He is our Chief Mixologist and he lives in the Dominican. He flew up for some of our events yesterday and some other things that we will be doing. He is the musician behind a lot of the cocktail program that we have. I’m sure that you are familiar with a Sommelier.

Well, he is a Rummelier – which is the pin on his lapel and he is classically trained in rum!

I am the VP of Sales team for Ozama. My father, Abbott Wolfe (Founder and CEO of Drink2Success) and David are business partners and created Ozama together.

AM: How long did it take for you to come up with the formulation?

EDWIN CASTILLO: The most important thing that you need to know about Ozama is that our rum is 100% Dominican. We have a different kind of rum that what others use in the Dominican and we use 100% Dominican sugarcane. A lot of rum in the Dominican uses molasses. Molasses is different with its aromas, and it is not easy to drink as you need some mixers.

AM: Right.

EC: The rum is made with a honey version of sugarcane and it is very refreshing.

AM: It is very smooth!

EC: You don’t need a mixer, you can drink it very neat!

AM: We have enjoyed it that way!

EC: Other rum in the Dominican in terms of aging, it’s 1 oak in American – it’s Bourbon. We use 2 oak – it’s Bourbon and a Cherry Cask. This way, our rum has more aroma.

AM: The first time we enjoyed Dominican Rum, it was in 2011 and was introduced to Brugal first. It was very tasty and has been a spirit that is always enjoyable. Molasses is an ingredient that we enjoy, but we do agree with you that this is such a great sip and it is very enjoyable, smooth and it’s great to drink by itself. Sugarcane is another ingredient that we’re fans of as it’s amazing in sodas.

EC: Brugal is made with molasses.

RW: Both of them are sweet in a good way. But it’s a very different profile. When people taste them side by side, molasses is thick, and it’s just like honey. But sugarcane is just a different taste.

AM: What year was it created?

RW: We launched last year. The project has been going on for a few years now. David and my father connected sometime in 2023 and it took obviously a lot of time. Everything about this was created by us - by the small team. I mean, the name, the package design, the label, the glass bottle - the liquid obviously.

AM: Your family was in the business before this too?

RW: Yeah! So, my, my father and I have both been in beverage alcohol for many, many years. My father was at Constellation Brand for a very long time.

And then his last, his last job before this, he helped Cameron Diaz (Charlie’s Angels franchise, Bad Teacher, There’s Something About Mary) and Katherine Power (Founder of MERIT Beauty, Versed Skincare, Who What Wear) build Avaline?

AM: Yeah, oh wow!

RW: It’s a clean, organic wine, so that was really his first foray if you will, into both startup and celebrity backed brands.

So, him and David connected through a mutual connection. David has always wanted to do something like this. David knows many, many things, but he didn’t know the alcohol industry, so that’s where we came in. I was at Boston Beer, Sam Adams for almost 14 years. Once my father and David got this off the ground, I jumped in to the deep end.

AM: That’s amazing. We were talking a bunch with the Truly team when they started.

RW: Oh, yes!

AM: We got to see them kind of rise year by year. It was pretty damn cool!

RW: I remember I was managing Maryland at the time - living in Baltimore, and we were a test market for Truly.

AM: Oh wow!

RW: I remember vividly standing in front of our Distributor Sales Meetings which are always at 7am in the morning on a Friday.

AM: Because, why not?

RW: Why not?

I vividly remember standing up in front of them, saying, I’m gonna tell you guys about this thing called Truly - Hard Sparkling Water. We may never talk about it again, but we’re going to see what happens this summer.

AM: Wow.

RW: There’s a reason that it’s very popular. It was wild to see from the test market.

AM: This is really cool and we’re looking forward to trying it.

Have you enjoyed being out here, Edwin?

EC: It’s nice, but I love being in the Dominican because it is very quiet!

AM: Where do you live in the Dominican?

EC: Santo Domingo.

AM: I’ve been there a few times. I had a shoe collab line with Sebago, and they made their shoes at Las Plaza America, so I was there a few times a year and I would go for 5 - 6 days at a clip to design each season ahead of my appearance at HSN. When we weren’t in the factory, we would go to the beach, restaurants, and the clubs! It was so beautiful there and I remember when we were heading to Embassy Suites there we would pass the baseball fields that were lining each sides of the street which was amazing! I loved it!

EC: Everybody wants to go to Dominican Republic to go to Punta Cana.

AM: True!

EC: Some people think that Punta Cana is the whole country.

AM: I fell in love with Santo Domingo. I really did - beautiful. We were partying some place where the kids of Presidente Beer bottling company and then there was a Lamborghini dealership and Louis Vuitton store across the street!

When I first came to DR, Punta Cana was the first city I had been to and we stayed at a lovely all inclusive resort. But then, when I went to Santo Domingo, I fell in love and my first night, we went to Boca Marina in Boca Chica and I made sure that we went there every time I was visiting to design and in each visit, we always had a lunch there and then a dinner! The views there and the food – best Lobster Lasagna. I just had spots – Casa de Campo was also lovely and then I was mesmerized by the baseball fields!

In looking at the 3 expressions, it’s quite an assortment! There is such a vintage vibe here.

RW: Yep, we have extra age products. Our Grand Rerseva, that’s being being developed. This on its own is aged for 6 years.

AM: Wow!

RW: So you know obviously we only launched last year, so people are like, well, how do you have a 6 or 8 year rum? The Distillery partner that we found with Edwin’s help, has been making rum for a long time, and obviously we’ve come in and make our blend, but they’ve got stuff aging for 10+ years. We can pull some of this and some of this and the barrels that we want. At some point, there will be a Reserva.

AM: Yeah, cheers to that moment. So, there’s at least 2 alcohol brands that your family has?

RW: The company that my father started is called, Drink2Success, so Ozama is our baby because our goal is to either create brands that are our own that we can own and develop and build or use our expertise and experience to help other brands. You guys are here in NY, so Wandering Barman is a craft cocktail Brewery or craft cocktail Tap Room. It’s a fantastic room in Brooklyn. It was 3 restaurateurs who saw a need for pre-batch cocktails that were ready to go, ready to serve format. They built a phenomenal business here in New York and allowed us to come in and basically help them take it to the next level.

So, there is nothing like Ozama in our portfolio. We make sure that nothing competes against itself.

AM: Of course! Any piece of innovation has to go here.

RW: Exactly!

There are 5 brands in the portfolio right now. Not only is this our baby, it’s also the biggest.

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AVANT GOTHICA WITH VSA

January 19, 2026

We’re excited to share an interview from our Athleisure Mag Summit Series which gives you an indepth look at a brand that we have had the pleasure of including in our photoshoots from celeb covers, model editorials, and even wearing it personally with a number of looks. Virgins Saints and Angels is a brand that includes a number of accessories that tell an array of stories and adds visual texture to whatever your style may be!

We sat down to talk with Cheryl “Finn” Finnegan, Founder and Chief Creative Officer of Virgins Saints and Angels. We talk about the origins of the line, the assortment, her design process, and essentials you need as you begin to build your own collection.

ATHLEISURE MAG: I have to say it is such a pleasure to be able to chat with you finally for this Athleisure Mag Summit Series Virtual Event! This series allows us to talk with great fashion brands that I know our readership and community should know about. Having them hear from the brand, learning about their assortment, and what we can expect from them in upcoming seasons! As you know, I have been a fan of your brand for the past 2 decades from wearing it personally when I’m out and about, for TV segments and also including it in our photoshoots for Athleisure Mag!

In talking with you right now, I am wearing the first ring that I ever received from your collection as that in itself is a full circle moment as it was the first piece that I wrote about for a blog that I started back in 2004 and how was I to know that in 2011, my boyfriend who I am still with who is a Co-Founder of Athleisure Mag, would not only buy this ring without knowing that I knew about it, but he ordered it through Ylang23 which is a retailer that I knew and would talk to off and on when I was working on my site! They knew me and thought it was such serendipity and then around that time, I was in Santo Domingo designing my collab line with Sebago as we were were preparing to launch the collection on HSN and I ended up meeting the leather team that supplied leather for your belts because their company was supplying the leather for my shoes!

CHERYL FINNEGAN: Oh my gosh thank you so much and I just think the world of you!

AM: Same! It’s a brand that I have loved ever since I knew about it, it’s what I wear every single day and I love everything about it. I just want to say thank you for creating it and your aesthetic is something I appreciate and I really love that you are taking the time!

CF: Of course!

AM: So prior to launching Virgins Saints and Angels, I’d love to know about your background because I know you are a fashion veteran as you worked in marketing for Levi Strauss and Co.

CF: Yes, I have been working in fashion since I was probably 16!

AM: Same!

CF: Yeah, starting out in the local department store and moving on from there. I worked with Levi Strauss and I had the best title on the planet! I was called an Image Consultant!

AM: Ok, that is the best title!

CF: It is the best title! I loved handing that card out! So, I was in charge of going out and checking out boutiques. I was searching out for places for us to be in. So I was always on the cusp of what was happening. So when I moved down to San Miguel I originally started doing these plastic woven bags. They were super cute and I reinvented the whole plastic bag in the mercado and I had to brand it because I am a marketing person.

The branding in these plastic bags – I couldn’t sew anything in there and it was cheesy to glue something in there. So I had the weavers who were prisoners, they did that job in the prison system in Mexico – I had them weave the little ring in there and I did a key fob.

AM: Ah I’m seeing where the DNA of VSA came from the minute you said that and now I know why the brand also has key fobs!

CF: Then that key fob turned into a belt buckle which then turned into a ring and then a rosary and that is how it all began!

AM: Yeah, I always wondered what was the piece that sparked everything else – this is fascinating because it’s an extensive assortment that has an array of pieces that speak to each other inside of the collections as well as those adjacent to it, but I couldn’t figure out where it started and what the root was.

CF: Right! I was making these little itty bitty key fobs and I had a sweet little logo under resin and then Fred Segal was buying the bags. But one day he said to me, “do you think that you could just sell me some of the key chains?” I thought that was great because the bags take up major bulk right?

AM: Yes!

CF: So most of the cost of the bag was the shipping. So I thought, I could ship 100 key chains in a little box. So then I started putting in the religious imagery in them. Then I had cute little hangtags on them so it would be Adam and Eve and the cute little tag would say, “They always look better than they taste” or something fun about the Virgin of Miracles or whatever. I had these cute little tags on them and Fred Segal went crazy over them! I was just selling them as fast as they got in and then eventually, it turned into a belt buckle. Literally, I was walking down the street in LA with my belt buckle and Laurence Fishburne’s (Matrix franchise, John Wick franchise, The Amateur) relative stopped me and asked me what I was wearing and I told her that I had just made this belt buckle and it was my prototype. She said that she had to have one and I just took it off my body and I sold it to her!

AM: Oh my God, that is insane!

CF: Then I thought, I think that I could be onto something!

AM: The pieces are so iconic. When we had Lala Kent from Vanderpump Rules as our cover for our MAY ISSUE #29 in 2018, she wore one of your crowns for the cover.

CF: Yes – insane.

AM: It’s just amazing the responses that you get when you’re wearing them even in the wild. On days where I’m running between editor’s appointments and showrooms and I’m just rocking leggings and a top but I have my VSA which takes it to another level, I do get stopped and you have mini conversations about them and it’s so fun to engage with people in that way.

What is your sourcing process like? I do like the elements in the pieces an San Benito and then the Magdalena – where do you get all of these things from?

CF: Well inspiration is local, I mean you’re in Mexico. When I first got here, I didn’t get it. I come from the Midwest –

AM: Same!

CF: Right, your religion is private.

AM: Same! That’s how I was raised too!

CF: I’m from near Chicago.

AM: I’m from Indianapolis originally and obviously, I’m in NY now. But I totally get it. Like growing up there you’re religious, but it’s not something that I would just throw out in conversation.

CF: It’s reserved right?

AM: 1000%

CF: In Mexico, Guadalupe is on every other tattooed man – it’s just very visible. I found it interesting and then I started looking into it more and then I started adding in this Gothic kitsch. I was definitely more of a punk goth chic when I was young. I had the spiky hair and black that was my thing. I definitely have a bit of those elements in every piece that I do. The Magdalena was that ability to wear a rosary and to wrap it around. I particularly love the belt buckles and to me, those were it! That was my go-to piece that I was known for and every celebrity would wear the belt buckle and be pictured in it and you would see it! An earring you may not see necessarily, a ring you may not see, but a belt buckle – you’re going to see that.

AM: I do love the Gothica style of it. I always say that there is this noir/macabre feeling in the pieces that are pleasantly moody where it’s not fully leaning in that direction but you get that essence. I’m not a preppy girl by any means, although I growing up that is how I dressed – hello Midwest. But, I love that I feel when I wear them that it grounds the look, it gives an edge to it. It feels approachable, it has visual texture, and there are always great conversations around the pieces and it goes on for minutes! You see a cross, then there is an interesting design, or some other fun element.

CF: I know! It does kind of push the limits! I will never forget when I was in San Francisco, I was in a store and a woman came in and she told me that her parents had a dining room and it was all in black velvet and had Jesus and Mary in it as they were very religious. This woman was wearing her Virgin of Guadalupe belt buckle and she felt kind of dirty wearing it there – ha! It definitely pushes something.

AM: It does push the limits but you have created this world from the jewelry to the campaign imagery that you put around it that creates a cohesive story and what it means to be in that space. Sometimes our shoots end up popping up so quickly that I may not have time to reach out to your team to put a request in for something that is in a new collection or an archive piece and I will shop my personal VSA collection to bring it to set as it adds that element of drama.

CF: Oh honey! We’re so happy to work with you!

AM: Of course sometimes when there is a tight window you have to make do! You had a cameo set that we pulled a couple of years ago and I had requested various pieces from it as I wasn’t sure how we were going to have it with our model and by the time I saw the looks, I realized that they all needed to be worn together as we shot it at the Algonquin Hotel here in NYC.

CF: Oh yes! I loved that!

AM: Your team was great to work with to get that going. And between the dress and the layers of statement necklaces and the earrings this Cameo Noir moment just really came together. My team was like, wait all of this together and I’m like the whole thing!

CF: You’re too cute!

AM: Where do you start in your design process? Being where you are in Mexico, walking around definitely must be something for the senses and crazy inspiration.

CF: My new collection is just coming out and it’s called Brigid. So, Brigid took me back to my original roots. So when I was first introduced to San Benito, I was in Ireland. I saw the Celtic cross and I remembered being in San Benito and seeing the San Benito Monastery. That was the Celtic cross and I have Celtic roots. So Brigid takes me back to the first trip in Ireland when I was first introduced to that Celtic cross in a town called Kildare. Killdare happens to be the town where Brigid is. I wanted to do something that was very Irish and I started looking back into it and the famous Celtic cross in Ireland is in Kildare and Brigid, she is the only Goddess who is also a Saint. So she is a pagan Goddess and a Saint at the same time.

AM: Interesting!

CF: She is all 4 elements. She is Air, Water, Fire, and Earth.

AM: Now it makes sense with the images that you sent knowing that!

CF: Exactly right? So, I’m tying things back to my Celtic roots but yet, it is so very Mexican inspired for the pieces. All of my pieces are handmade!

AM: That’s another thing that I love about your brand! It already comes out with that heritage aspect to it due to how it is crafted. It is polished not like something that is mass produced, but in a way where you feel that an artisan made it and it is passed down to you. Every time I put it on – even if it is a new piece or one I haven’t worn in a while, you have this feeling that is warm and as if it something that you have had for years.

CF: You need to come down here and come down to the workshop!

AM: I want to come and see this, I would probably freak out!

CF: All of my clients that come to the workshop, they always say, “you don’t charge enough for your pieces.” They are blown away!

AM: I have to say that I have always felt that your pieces are a great price point; however, you have all the people that are making it by hand –

CF: It’s a lot! I have the same workers for 25 years.

AM: Really?

CF: Yes, the same people! They are the best of what they do. They love when I bring a magazine photo in and show them. They love seeing Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus or a number of the people that have worn their brand. They all have their little alters at their work stations. They really put a lot of love in what they do.

AM: When you make a collection each season like Brigid, how long is that process from concept to finish?

CF: It’s a lot. It can take – Brigid is coming out on Feb 1st and what we do is that we always wear the pieces beforehand. So after awhile in wearing a piece, you can see how it feels and you may say, this isn’t right. So we have to change and we have 2 pieces that we are right now in the process of getting ready. For Brigid, we have been working since Oct on this. It takes a long time and as a designer, I’m working all of the time. You don’t just stop your brain from being creative right? Every time you are looking at something, you’re saying, how does this translate?

It’s very interesting and I love it. I sit with the workers, I don’t hand them a sketch. I sit with them while we are making the pieces. I don’t have my cell phone with me or my laptop, I sit with them and I say, let’s do this and let’s do that. Then, they give me ideas, and we do it together.

AM: I did the same thing with my shoes as there was so much to learn by being able to talk with the artisans that have been doing this for years. I was able to share my vision, how I wanted the leathers arranged and then to watch them put it together, offer directions and adjustments to make a beautiful collection that I sold on HSN. So being in Santo Domingo and to have that experience really opened my eyes to craftsmanship. They knew that product and it was a pleasure to work with them. They knew that leather better than anybody, they knew about the last and so many components of the shoe.

CF: Yes! I have to say that it is very different than going to a factory in China where they are throwing things in a machine and spitting it out. There was a period where there was a copy cat of mine and they were making it in China and you could tell that it wasn’t the same.

AM: You knew the difference! Just the weight alone. It always surprises me that the pricing of your collection is so reasonable and then when you think about the hand made element as well, it’s amazing that your prices aren’t higher.

CF: People know once you start wearing it and playing with it. Our pieces in addition to being hand made are also hand polished. In this industry, when people say handmade – what does that mean because there could be elements that are and others on a machine. I do such a volume that I am fortunate that I am able to keep the prices at where they’re at. That definitely helps and we have a nice kind of flow to our factory – I don’t call it a factory I call it an atelier. We have about 13 people who work with us and every piece has its own hand antiquing. I don’t like that usually in jewelry when you antique it, they throw it in a black pot and they tumble it. I don’t like that. I like to brush it on by hand and I tell them where I want it to be more intense and where I want it to be less intense.

AM: Oh wow that explains something else I have always wondered. It’s yet another little detail that I am learning about you and the brand! I always noticed that it wasn’t the same all over in terms of my rings as I have more in this category than other portions of your line. So I will see certain parts of the ring will look one way or another when I am turning my hand or picking something up. I just thought that my skin was making it do that!

CF: There is a designer that wore my cuff to death in the shower, swimming in the ocean and I ran into her in NY and I said Nicole, would you like for me to replate that for you? It was black! And she was like, it’s my natural patina piece – my personal patina! I was like ok!

AM: Oh wow!

Who would you say is the VSA customer if you had to put a person in a category or categories?

CF: I know! There is the woman that I think she is that is this punk rock cool chick. But it’s so difficult because we have people from Miley Cyrus to Maria Shriver to Marilyn Manson. It is the most bizarre brand. A marketing company will come to me and say who is your customer and I really know that we are all over the board. We are being included in the upcoming season of Euphoria –

AM: Oh yeah, that’s huge! It’s their 3rd season!

CF: Yeah and they’re using my pieces all over! Yeah! So I have that kind of client and I have no idea as I have never seen that show.

AM: I did try to watch it but I feel like the show the cast when it first started they were like 16 but they’re definitely show the cast going through it. They’re drinking, doing drugs, navigating relationships. For me, watching younger kids do that isn’t for me versus seeing the same thing done with adults. But it is an acclaimed show and I know people really love it! I mean Zendaya (Challengers, Dune franchise, Spider-Man franchise), Colman Domingo (The Four Seasons, Fear the Walking Dead, Sing Sing) – so now I feel like I need to get on that train.

CF: I know! I have to watch it.

AM: So now that VSA is in it, I have to support it.

CF: You’re not going to see Zendaya in it but it’s another main character –

AM: Could be Sydney Sweeney (White Lotus, The Housemaid, Eden) as I know she is in it.

CF: I don’t know, but the main character is going to be wearing a signature rosary as that is her thing. You’ll see a belt buckle and you will see everything. I don’t want to say too much but I am excited.

I have also had a number of programs contact me as there is this whole witchy aesthetic that has been going on lately. When VSA started, Passion of the Christ came out, The Da Vinci Code so there was a lot of the religious thing, then we moved into Disney because there was Once Upon a Time –

AM: Yes! Loved that show and the pieces for that were huge as that was such a major collab with Disney!

CF: I fit in with those things personally. Then things got a little boring and now there is this whole witch thing going on. So there’s a movie called Forbidden Fruit that they chose my pieces for and then there is this new series that they are filming in Canada right now and I sent them 150 pieces. They went crazy for everything!

AM: I would love to see them in White Lotus, I don’t believe they are in production just yet. When they were filming in Thailand for S3, I was reached out to by someone working with them and they were looking for designers to partner with. I don’t know if it was for the show or for promotional items that would flow coming off of that and I told them then that they should talk with you and that I would be happy to connect the 2.

CF: Love it! I will tell you that my team is so professional and you have worked with them so many times. We say that we will have it on X date – we do, we have the return label, everything is packaged clean, we do what we say we will do. I don’t know how many people in the industry do that.

AM: Not a lot! Many times I have the request with a buffer and you’ll have some people still missing that window – so crazy!

CF: They’re kind of taken back at how easy it is to work with us!

AM: Oh yes, you guys package it nicely and everything is just ready to go. I find that in this business even though some people don’t do things to standard, when you are not a massive brand or with a massive firm or whatever the case may be, you have to be more on point and easy to work with so that you can continue to navigate and I always appreciate when people take care and pride in what they do! It’s about the details and the follow through!

CF: I also have this immense archive!

AM: I was just going to ask you about that!

CF: It’s massive – it’s crazy! So this program called The Body that is coming out, they shared the storyline and I told them that I would pick all of the pieces so they could give me direction. I gave them my mood board with all of the pieces. The pieces I showed them were not on the website. I can just pull from the archive and it’s so fun and most people don’t know that I do head pieces – I have thousands! I’m not going to put them on my website. People don’t necessarily want to spend a $1,000 on a headpiece that they will wear once.

AM: But it is there should they want it!

CF: It’s been so much fun and I can’t believe that I have had this life.

AM: Your photoshoots are productions in themselves and I get it as we do a number of them here at Athleisure Mag. What is that like as they are immersive and they have such a storyline and you had one that always comes to mind which was a Last Supper motif.

CF: I know! That one was so controversial. I would have surprise photoshoots with my team and that one was a team photoshoot.

AM: Oh wow!

CF: They didn’t know it was going to happen we were just eating like we normally do. I do them at my house, so I have the MUA sneaking in, the costume guy, the hair guy – everyone is setting up. So I let everyone know this is it – the Last Supper photoshoot. I have Mariana there with her long black hair naked, covering her breasts with the black tears and huge belt buckle. We have 12 women dressed super elegantly with the hairdos and I wanted a crystal turkey – the food had to be crystalized! We have so much fun with these shoots and they are all at the office or at my house!

AM: I always enjoy seeing your campaigns, photoshoots, and videos. There have been times that I have used them in terms of creating my moodboards for a shoot or concept. It’s art and it has everything in there.

CF: I go outside of it. When I do Marie Antoinette, she’s going to have the white makeup on and we’re going to go all out. Forget about the hybrid! I’m the real deal!

AM: What do you feel are the 3 key pieces that someone should have if they are just starting our their VSA collection?

CF: Ok, well for certain my Magdalena which is a multi-beaded piece that is super versatile and the first necklace that I designed! It’s still in the line and still my #1 piece. Lady Gaga wears it, Madonna wears it, everyone! That was the necklace that Britney Spears put me on the map. Then when she was going through that period of time where it was about Save Britney Spears was all over the Internet. She decided that she was going to pose naked on the Internet with only my necklace – she is like Maria Magdalena reincarnated. Lady Gaga wore it for her half time show and people choose to wear my pieces during key moments. Miley Cyrus wore that necklace for forever. It means something to them.

I would definitely say a VSA ring. I would also say a belt buckle. These are great statements. A lot of people think that with a belt buckle you have to have a skinny waist – no you don’t. You can wear your belt buckle high on the waist if you want our buckles are big it’s somehow an illusion!

AM: I tell people it’s a look that should be incorporated.

CF: Those 3 items the Magdalena the beaded necklace, the buckle, and the ring. My rings are statement pieces as you know – don’t be afraid of them!

AM: I say that too. You get used to wearing them and I don’t leave the house without them! I would feel weird leaving the house without them. The few times I do, they are probably in my bag waiting to be put back on. I workout in them and they sit in the little ring tray when I am getting my nails done.

CF: It’s like protection.

AM: I do feel that they are a bit like armor when I put them on. I have had them for so long and I like being able to choose a nice arrange of rings as I tend to wear 4 and always 2 from VSA. The fact that you have archives I do want to dig into those as a few years ago I was looking through that with one of your team members because we thought a project was going to take place and I couldn’t believe pieces I was drooling over that I had never seen on the website.

CF: Oh yeah the archive!

AM: Right and to your point, I was like we need to go to San Miguel because I can only imagine!

CF: You and Paul need to come down you would have so much fun! I love how versatile the pieces are the people that love this brand. I remember when Tim McGraw was in a photoshoot and he was styled in various pieces. The shearling coat was Dolce Gabbana and the best photo of all is a full page shot of him in his lounge chair in his office. He had his belt buckle on – VSA belt buckle and his hat and his favorite denim shirt and the credits said that the buckle was designer’s own. He was so proud of wearing that piece. I don’t care that he didn’t say my name –

AM: I remember seeing that picture and looking at the credits and I knew it was VSA!

CF: Yeah! That’s the thing – he chose that outfit because that was the picture and he looked so relaxed and so great.

We get phone calls and emails of people claiming that the pieces have done something to save their life – it is bizarre. We had a woman from NYC call the office and she was crying. She told me that she was weaing the Guadalupe belt buckle in Central Park and walked up to a woman crying on a park bench. She put her hand on her shoulder and said can I help you? The woman looked up and saw the belt buckle and said, “you just did.” The woman on the bench had prayed to Guadalupe asking for a sign or she would end her own life.

AM: Oh my.

CF: I mean, we were all crying by the end of that story. It was just amazing and we get these stories. People from Patagonia that had a life changing event that happened while wearing the necklace and now they aren’t going to take it off. You can’t believe some of the things that we hear and there is a power behind it.

AM: I always feel settled when I wear them it’s putting on those last elements to take on the world like armor.

CF: Listen to us!

AM: I’ve always felt that when you wear an accessory and especially when it comes to jewelry and that skin to skin contact, there is what the designer intended by designing it and then it merges with who you are as a person and then it becomes like a totem in many respects. You wear it every day, stories and moments in time are being associated and there is something there.

CF: I think jewelry does that way more than a sweater or something of that nature.

AM: Totally! I think it’s like when you walk into someone’s home, you feel a vibe because you are in the space of the inhabitants that eat, sleep, and live there and the home becomes an amplifier of the energy and sentiments that are there.

CF: Exactly.

AM: So the pieces that you’re wearing, because it is everyday and next to your skin – it is a thing.

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THE ARTISAN | DOMINIC CIAMBRONE "THE SURGEON"

December 29, 2023

If you've been collecting sneakers and have a passion for some of your favorite Nike, Gucci, Lanvin's etc that are deconstructed, reconstructed and customized with premium and exotic skins, Dominic Ciambrone, a.k.a. The Surgeon is the legendary creative mind that is at the forefront of taking our sneaker game to the next level! His work has been coveted and collected by Justin Bieber, LeBron James, Odell Beckham Jr, DJ Khaled, Canelo, and more. In addition he has worked with Bentley Motors, NBA, NFL, Miami Heat, Golden State Warriors, Heineken, Reese's, Glenmorangie, 7-11, and a number of other brands. We wanted to find out how he got into and pioneered this space, what his work entails, his projects, working with luxury brands, SRGN Studios, SRGN Academy, his passion for sports, The League, and additional projects that he is working on.

ATHLEISURE MAG: When did you realize that you wanted to be a shoemaker?

DOMINIC CIAMBRONE: When did I realize that I wanted to be a shoemaker? I would say when I was 19 years old. From the age of 15/16, I was painting shoes, but I realized that to actually be a shoemaker, I needed to take my craft a step further. That realization came I think when I met one of my mentors, Michael Anthony who hand makes western boots.

AM: What was that journey like to be able to be self-taught and learning all of those elements?

DC: It was a long road! I started with painting shoes and then I learned how to sew on top of them – I learned sewing in high school. Then I met my mentor who made western boots so I got to watch him make boots and then I realized that that’s what I wanted to do with sneakers. I wanted to make the highest end sneakers in the world and it took many years working for free and just doing stuff to learn about machines and tools. It was a lot of missteps and a lot of learning. I did paint, I did shoe repair, fixed purses and bags. I mean, I did all kinds of things just so that I could learn.

AM: Back in 2011/2012, I had a collaboration with Sebago and I had a line of their boat shoes and we sold it on HSN, Bloomingdale's and a few select retailers and I was so excited. But my background at that time was in apparel and jewelry as opposed to shoes. I remember reading an article about you and your work when I was on my flight heading to the factory in the Dominican Republic. After reading it, I felt that in hearing your story, how you approached your work etc, that if I could take that same approach and focus on the materials and create another way to highlight this style of shoe much as you do with sneakers that I could do it! So reading about you and just thinking about it in a different way saved me from freaking out on my flight I just wanted to say thank you for that!

DC: That’s awesome!

AM: Why do you call yourself The Surgeon?

DC: I was 18 years old in a hotel in NYC for the first time trying to figure out what to call myself, the brand, and what I was doing. I just wrote down a bunch of things and I was just trying to figure out what do I do to sneakers? What do I do to the shoes? I was like, “surgery,” and that’s where it got birthed – The Surgeon. Now that we're expanding the business, we've taken "Shoe" out of the name and go by SURGEON. Our creativity isn't limited to sneakers and you're going to see that more and more next year.

AM: When you’re customizing shoes, where do you start in that creative process when you’re making sneakers?

DC: I mean it changes. I don’t have one set process. For me, I have always been able to build something to life straight from an idea. I love sourcing materials, I’m really big into materials, I think that I’m mostly a materials person. I mostly just love it so much. You can turn something into a product and that’s a beautiful thing.

AM: I’m also a fashion stylist and an accessory expert, so I’m constantly talking about and believe that when someone is purchasing a handbag, jewelry, or shoes, you’re buying what the designer intended in making that item as well as what the wearer puts into it after wearing it and wanting it. Ultimately, that connection between the person who purchased it and the product creates its own history and meaning. When people are buying your shoes, what are they getting?

DC: I mean, ha – they get a piece of my soul. They get a piece of something that’s my entire life and they get a piece of shoemaking history that dates back all the way to Ancient Egypt! I mean, there’s those hieroglyphics on the wall that I looked at recently and some of the oldest ones have people making shoes!

AM: You have been worn and collected by so many people from LeBron James, Justin Bieber, Drake and more. What’s it like when you’re collaborating with them on specific ideas and incorporating your concepts together?

DC: Sometimes they give me the full range to do what I want and then there’s some that have a couple of ideas and I help bring their ideas to life where they will give a little bit of direction and I’m able to go back and forth. I think that a true collaboration is a very beautiful thing. You have 2 energies that are coming together to create something magical.

AM: You’ve also worked with so many brands whether it’s Gucci or Lanvin or Nike or Reese’s, what does it feel like to be able to work with these types of brands and to bring your creativity and artistry into what their lexicon is?

DC: I mean, it’s a beautiful thing. At the end of the day, I just – a friend of mine told me that I’m making commercial cool right? So a lot of the stuff that I get to do is that I get to make cool commercials and I didn’t look at it that way. People just reached out to me for my craft and my artistry and what I have been able to build from my Instagram to just a true foundation where I hold a high value on my quality and my artisanal work with the team so it’s really cool to be able to be part of it.

AM: You’re SURGEON X Bentley partnership last year where you had the limited edition shoes as well as Surgeon-ifying their car, what did it mean to you to work with this brand and to create in this way?

DC: Bentley is one of, if not the most, prestigious car company in the world. So, to be able to fly to Crewe, England and sit with the makers there and to see how they produced one of the highest quality cars in the world was a very humbling experience and it was so amazing to be able to do that because that car is the top of the top!

AM: Oh yeah!

The materials that you use – the leathers, the exotics are amazing. Have you also used sustainable materials like banana leathers, mycelium and things like that?

DC: Oh yeah, I’ve been using different ideas of sustainability whether it’s even recycled materials. I actually flew to Brazil, developed an Elephant Ear plant material and we have used that on shoes and right now, I have a shoe that is launching that the sole is dyed with turmeric, the swoosh is mushroom, pineapple leather, grape leaf leather – I mean, it’s a really cool shoe.

AM: What has been your favorite project that you have worked on?

DC: I don’t really have favorites …

AM: You’re like me – I don’t have favorites, but there are a lot of things that I vibe with!

DC: I think it’s myself – really working on myself is beauty and I never looked at it that way until recently. So to be able to work on myself and to be able to translate that to my children, the work will speak for itself. myself is beauty and I never looked at it that way until recently. So to be able to work on myself and to be able to translate that to my children, the work will speak for itself.

AM: When you started, this industry and the market didn’t really exist in this way and you definitely have left a mark on it. Where do you see the industry in the next 15/20 years?

DC: That’s a great question. I don’t know. I don’t think like that because shoes and the custom industry was something that I think that I really helped pioneer and now for me, it’s way bigger than that. I’m working on architecture, interiors, car design, and so many other things. So just for custom shoes as an industry, I think that more people will respect the process more. I think that some will try it and most won’t like it because it’s a lot of work. I do think that a lot of things will be going to automation and easy to do things.

AM: Tell me about SRGN Academy which you have in LA, Las Vegas and at the Seaport here in NY.

DC: The SRGN Academy was started 8 or 9 years ago now. Growing up, I didn’t have a class or a school that I wanted to go to so I wanted to offer a trade school that you learn how to make a pair of shoes from scratch and at the same time, it’s not just about the shoes. It’s about going through something for yourself and doing something positive for yourself.

AM: Then there’s SRGN Studios, why did you want to launch this and what does it entail?

DC: SRGN Studios and even SURGEON Worldwide, is just a company that I have been able to build. The studio is like my fantasy factory where we have sports and all things under one roof. Not until you’re able to come into the studio do you really get a feel for it. You can only see so much through social media and online. So it's just a way for people to be able to have fun and live life. Life’s too short. I wanted to create a safe and fun place for people.

AM: Tell me about The League.

DC: The League started out of – well my business partner Dallas Imbimbo, he plays basketball and I play soccer. So once we got into our newer space, we just started playing pickup games and then we were like, “oh, let’s do more.” So we turned it into a league and it’s been very competitive, and fun, and a great outlet for me to not just be creative – but athletic and to compete in a healthy way.

AM: It seems like you have a full schedule. Will you ever have versions where you go to other cities like here in NY or in Miami.

DC: Yeah, we’re working on it.

AM: A few minutes ago, you were talking about how your passion extends beyond just shoes as you’re working in architecture, interiors, and cars. Will you have a clothing line, will we ever see a hotel that you do?

DC: Yeah exactly! I’m working on all of those things. I think that the hotel is definitely something that I love. I’m passionate about traveling and experience is something that is very meaningful to me so a hotel is definitely ideating.

AM: Here at Athleisure Mag, we love talking about food, it’s a great love that we’re constantly covering. You have the Canevari’s Ravioli Factory & Delicatessen – tell us more about this.

DC: My dad took over this deli 12-15 years ago and growing up my whole life, my dad was a chef. My mom cooked and my dad, when I was going into my freshman year of high school, they opened a restaurant and I got to see them live out their passions by just opening up a restaurant. At the time, I took it for granted and I didn’t understand it. I thought that it was normal and it was just my normal. Now that they have the deli, I have helped them remodel it, help brand it, and to get the right eyeballs on it to continue to grow it. It’s helped my dad and I to become closer.

“They get a piece of my soul. They get a piece of something that’s my entire life and they get a piece of shoemaking history that dates back all the way to Ancient Egypt! I mean, there’s those hieroglyphics on the wall that I looked at recently and some of the oldest ones have people making shoes!”
— Dominic Ciambrone "The Surgeon"

AM: What do you do in terms of working out as we like to know. So what are 3 workouts that you do that we should consider to add into our routines?

DC: Play soccer! Play soccer! It’s such a good workout. I mean and then, steam room, sauna, and I also meditate which is a workout for the mind to relax and physical therapy. I think a lot of people don’t realize how important physical therapy is. We wait until we’re hurt or we need to recover to get to it. But it’s like, if you can be preventative, then you’ll always be good. Mobility workouts are great. It’s less about weight and going crazy, it’s about the body and being really kind to your body and figuring out how to open it up so that you can have it for the longevity of your life.

AM: Totally agree. I turned 40 a few years ago and prior to that I wasn’t as focused on recovering the body post workout and mobility. When I started adding it in, I wondered why I had never done that because your body needs it and you can feel it over time.

When you’re not working, how do you take time for yourself?

DC: How do I take time for myself? I have a life coach that I work with every week. You know, I would say that playing soccer is time for myself even though it is in the studio. It’s really the only time that I ever shut off unless I’m in a meditation or workout. Hiking, traveling, and then working on myself for my children.

AM: Are there any upcoming projects that you would like to share?

DC: Ha! I’d have to ask my team! I can’t even keep up. We’re moving into the new studio, another 20,000 sq ft. We have a collaboration with Allen Iverson that launches next month. I mean, there are so many, I can’t even keep up anymore.

AM: You have so many projects going on and dropping. When a project comes to your attention, how do you decide if that is something that you want to add to your schedule?

DC: We have built such a great team to help manage this stuff so that we can continue to grow and that for me as a creative, I can continue to explore new things. So, it just depends. There are so many great things that we’re working on and a lot of the things that I’m working on is the stuff for the future.

AM: You’re also an advocate and you speak about the importance of mental health which is something we believe in. Why is it so important to you and what do you feel is the connection between mental health and physical health?

DC: As a kid, I went through a lot of mental health challenges, and I don’t think that I knew of it that way. At 24, I ended up jumping out of a window when I was making shoes for Justin Bieber, and I was diagnosed bipolar and I didn’t really know what that meant. Then when I started doing more self-research and figuring more things out, it’s so important – mental health and physical health are one in the same and you need to do both. When you take care of your physical health, your mental health will be better. It’s just true in the same and so it’s very important to physically take care of yourself for your mental purposes and with mindful workouts which is meditation, positive self-talk, it's mindfulness and so many things. And yeah, there’s so many people with how the world is going where people are pushing you know, different types of medicines. There’s something so much more easier about being able to get up and going for a walk, being in the sun, and taking care of your mind, body, and soul.

AM: I heard you like to rap in the office!

DC: HAHA I like to make people laugh! Growing up, my dad always rhymed, more like Dr. Seuss than a rapper, but I do it for myself and also to help people around to laugh. My kids pick it up to and it’s so funny because if I try to start rhyming and rapping, my daughter’s like, “dad, stop!”

AM: I could see you dropping a mix tape!

DC: I mean, I’m working on music more for exploring it. It’s less about rapping and more about just creating!

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Read the NOV ISSUE #95 of Athleisure Mag and see THE ARTISAN | Dominic Ciambrone “The Surgeon” in mag.

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